Guest contribution from the "Im selben Boot" team: Every year, curative education students are commissioned to set up a project that is to be implemented with the intention of promoting inclusion, and since these attempts at communication often take place in the vicinity of our university in Görlitz, we suspected that our target groups (institutions, associations, etc.) are gradually developing a growing lack of interest in this topic. We thought that giving students high-quality answers to their complex questions every year might become tiring in the long run. This difficult situation is supported by the fact that inclusion has been, is and will continue to be a controversial and hotly debated topic in all areas of society. For this reason, we developed the idea of starting our work one step earlier, namely with an open discussion in which we wanted to listen rather than propose approaches for inclusion measures and initiate their implementation. Education in Germany is a large area of society that will be strongly influenced by the idea of inclusion in the coming years. We wanted to invite people to a round table discussion, not to be spokespeople, but rather to listen to the concerns of those whose day-to-day work would be dramatically changed by inclusion. We wanted to send out a signal that we are all "in the same boat", which is also the name of our project.[caption id="attachment_118" align="aligncenter" width="800"] Project team "In the same boat?"[/caption]So we decided to start at our own university, because childhood educators and social workers will (most likely) also be confronted with the issue of inclusion in the future and share fields of work with us special educators.With the question "How do students of social work and childhood education at the Zittau/Görlitz University of Applied Sciences experience the social debate on inclusion in relation to their future professional field and their own experiences during their studies?" we advertised our project in person, with posters, flyers and emails and were very happy that the new recipe seemed to work and that the idea met with interest here on site.Unfortunately, none of the registered participants showed up for the meeting. We sat there between coffee and cake and discussed what could be the reason for the lack of interest in this meeting: Was it the method? Do people prefer to take home ready-made opinions and approaches in the form of a seminar, workshop or lecture, including a certificate, to make it worth their while? Was the timing bad for the students because exams started two weeks later? We came to the conclusion that wild speculation is pointless, as we could never know for sure, without feedback from those approached, what the main reasons were for not attending the meeting or the lack of interest in it. What we do agree on, however, is that this course of events is symptomatic of the current situation of inclusion issues in society. The Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities was signed in 2009 and is therefore actually applicable law in Germany. However, many people don't even know about it and those who do are usually overwhelmed by its implementation. Many educators, teachers, social workers, caregivers, etc. complain about inclusive measures because they are presented with a fait accompli and may not have been able to prepare themselves sufficiently and deal with the background. In our opinion, this step is missing in the process of inclusion and we wanted to try to provide an impetus for this with our project and hope to reach even more people in this way and to promote a new meeting in the winter semester. If you have any questions, please send an email to imselbenboot@hszg.de.